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Stranger Than Fiction

Tuesday night documentary film series at the IFC Center, New York

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Ben Kempas
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

Dear D-Worders,

We invite you to participate in a new Public Topic devoted to Stranger Than Fiction, the screening series hosted by Thom Powers and Raphaela Neihausen at New York's IFC Center. Now in its tenth season, STF will feature esteemed directors such as Doug Pray, Jonathan Demme and Peter Davis this spring.

This on-line conversation will extend the mix of criticism, gossip, and professional advice exchanged at STF gatherings each week. You can join from anywhere in the world. The STF organizers will also give advice to D-Worders who want to start their own local film clubs.

The discussion kicks off in anticipation of Doug Pray's ART & COPY that will screen at STF on May 5 at 6 pm and 8 pm. The film, which premiered at Sundance, looks at the real life "Mad Men" and the creative side of advertising. Pray has an esteemed directing career including the docs SURFWISE, BIG RIG, SCRATCH and HYPE! The STF screenings of ART & COPY will be filled with ad execs who will be in New York for the One Club Festival. (Bring your business cards!)

Let's discuss the intersection between documentary and advertising. Esteemed filmmakers such as Errol Morris, Al Maysles and Barbara Kopple have long directed commercials to boost their incomes. What do D-Worders think about this crossover? We hope to hear from you!

To learn more about this series, go to http://stfdocs.com/

Thom Powers & Raphaela Neihausen & The D-Word Hosts


Thom Powers
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

Thanks, Ben. The D-Word community has always been an important part of STF. In fact, our very first screening in fall 2005 was Doug Block's 51 BIRCH STREET. And our most recent screening last week was Aron Gaudet & Gita Pullapilly's THE WAY WE GET BY.

We've screened close to a hundred films in between (I've lost count), including Ben's UPSTREAM BATTLE that kicked off our winter season in January.

Now we're starting to put together our fall season and are eager for suggestions. If you've come to STF, please share your favorite memories here.


Doug Block
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

We're happy to be hosting the STF discussions here, Thom (and Raphaela). In just a few years, the series has become a documentary institution here in NYC. The challenge for us in these discussions is how to make it equally relevant, and hopefully as essential, to those who live outside the NYC area.

One obvious way is to invite the filmmakers on and make this a kind of extended Q&A. Another is to at link to where their trailers can be seen. But I'm sure it will evolve in unexpected ways, too.

Might be helpful to see it as an extension of our Bar & Grill, only centered around a curated selection of great docs every week. And the drinks are totally free!

Edited Thu 30 Apr 2009 by Doug Block

Ryan Ferguson
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

another way to make it relevant outside of NYC is to actually bring the Stranger Than Fiction series to other cities – franchise it. I think it could thrive here in Chicago and obviously LA and probably several other big cities.


Christopher Wong
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

i don't know if it's on the STF site or not, but it would also help to know how these films are selected. i'm guessing that you (Thom) have final say as the head curator, but how do you pick the films? whatever you like? only from the "best" fests? are you influenced at all by sales agents or PR reps who push their films to STF? just wondering...


Marj Safinia
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

I love the idea of franchising, and have spoken to Thom about this in the past. I know there are challenges since the screenings are organized around people being in NYC, but I know that LA would love to do this and I could facilitate a co-partnership with the IDA for LA based STF screenings if that's an avenue that holds interest. A screening series is something we're already talking about at IDA, so this could work nicely for both groups.


Raphaela Neihausen
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

Yes, there has indeed been much talk about expanding STF beyond its New York base. Although it's not something either Thom or I could spearhead at the moment, we're happy to lend a hand to any documentary enthusiasts trying to make this happen in their hometowns. Marj – we'd love to speak with you more about a co-partnership with IDA. That could be a great idea.

As for how films are selected – they are personally picked by Thom. In addition to having already seen many classics that he draws from, he also selects films from festivals he attends and submissions he receives (via filmmakers, sales agents, etc – it is an open process and anyone can submit a film). We like to balance our line-up with lost hard-to-find classics (like NATIVE LAND from 1942 which we showed 2 weeks ago) and hot-off-the-festival circuit sneak previews (like our next few films: ART & COPY, THE GLASS HOUSE, TIBET IN SONG). One additional criteria is that the director need to be present for the screening Q&A. Submissions can be sent to our address that's listed on our website's about page (http://stfdocs.com/about). Hope that answers your question, Christopher!

On a separate note: here's a sweet story on the intersection of advertising and creative careers. I was on the subway yesterday, sitting next to a woman who was typing on her computer. I know this flies in the face of etiquette, but I was reading over her shoulder and completely enthralled by the short story she was crafting as the metro bumped along. I also made a mental note to remember her name that was in the document header. Upon exiting the train, I confessed to her that I'd been reading her work and thought it was great. She blushed, thanked me, and that was that. Later that night, just for fun, I looked her up on Facebook and friended her (with a note explaining who I was)and invited her to join the STF group. She accepted my request and wrote me back that she had bought her ticket for the STF screening of ART & COPY the day prior since her "day-time" job was being an advertising executive at a NY firm, and that was how she supported her creative pursuits.


Christopher Wong
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

thx raphaela. great explanation. i'll submit a copy of my film soon.


Raphaela Neihausen
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

Please do, Christopher! When sending, write a little note mentioning that it is for STF (as Thom also gets TIFF submissions to the same address). Thanks.


Pablo Alvarez
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

Hi Raphaela, do you have a shorts program?


Raphaela Neihausen
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

No, we do not currently have a short program. That may change down the road. (Only caveat being that once in a while we have a feature film that may be on the shorter side, in which case we may pair that with a short by the same filmmaker)


Ryan Ferguson
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

I could potentially be interested in spearheading a Chicago version... maybe with some help (yo Danielle, you out there??) I think we could probably find partners with a local film org. ie. IFP Chicago or something. Probably could host it at the Music Box or Gene Siskel Film Center.

I guess my main concern would be trying to create a level of consistency with the NYC STF and any other new ones for that matter. Like integrating into the website and actually finding ways to bring filmmakers in (i'm sure this is where partnerships could come help). I'd be interested to at least explore the idea more... this city definitely has a hole that a well established program like this could fill.


Doug Block
Thu 30 Apr 2009Link

Funny, Raphaela, I have almost the exact same story as yours, only it happened in a cafe here in Dumbo. Her name wouldn't happen to be Eve, would it?


Jesse Zook Mann
Fri 1 May 2009Link

Yay! I love you STF! I havent made it this season yet, darn production schedules but cant wait to see you guys on tuesday. Thank you for holding these events all the time and creating such an awesome home for nyc doc folks to return to. you guys rock.


Thom Powers
Fri 1 May 2009Link

Thanks for everyone's interest. Marj & Ryan, I encourage you to initiate your own series and I'm happy to offer advice. At this stage, I don't see the feasibility for STF to have a formal relationship with out of town series. You can do it yourself and tailor to your own communities without a 3rd party like STF taking a percentage. Maybe someday I'll figure out how to franchise. But until then, I'd rather see other people craft their own versions.

My dream is for enough of these film clubs to exist that a director could actually tour a circuit like Boston, NY, Philly, DC and similar stops in other regions. But it's tricky. A film might play great in Boston and not so well in NY or vice versa.

This goes back to Christopher's question about program selection. Yes, it's a entirely subjective process, picking films that either I love or that I think will connect to my core audience.

When I started STF, I had various motives. One was that films were coming out of big fests like Toronto or Sundance without having closed a distribution deal. Then what? They had to wait to be programmed at another fest for buyers to take a fresh look. Or, in many cases, producers would rent a Manhattan screening room and invite buyers.

Instead of making the producer pay for that, I could offer them a small honorarium and handle all the logistics of bringing together an excited audience.

This was the impetus behind our first screening of 51 BIRCH STREET. And, in different ways, for films such as A TABLE IN HEAVEN; BILLY THE KID; and FULL BATTLE RATTLE. I wish I could report that STF was responsible for a big sale, but as we all know, it's a tough market. These days, I feel less enthusiastic about the model of selling to distributors and more emboldened by self-distribution efforts like Gary Hustwit's for OBJECTIFIED. At least, STF provided a place for producers to test the waters without incurring another expense.

Another motive for STF was to revive films that aren't easily available. As an example, on May 19, we'll be screening a rare doc by Peter Davis called SECOND TIME AROUND. You heard it hear first: currently, the STF website has this billed as a "Peter Davis Tribute."

You may know Davis as the Oscar-winning director of HEARTS & MINDS. Years later, he produced a series for PBS called "Middletown" set in Muncie, Indiana. The best known episode of that series is SEVENTEEN by Joel DeMott and Jeff Kreines. Other episodes were handled by different directors. SECOND TIME AROUND looks at an engaged couple who have previously been divorced (from other spouses), as they prepare for their wedding. Peter captures some remarkably intimate conversations about family, finances and other touchy subjects that every couple has to hash out.

Has anyone here ever seen it? Or heard of it? Whenever you finally get to see this film, you're in for a treat.


Thom Powers
Fri 1 May 2009Link

As a follow up, I want to underscore that we show many films from fests other than Sundance or Toronto (as with the 3 examples I cited above after 51 BIRCH STREET).

One screening I'm especially proud of was SWEET DREAMS <http://stfdocs.com/films/sweet_dreams/>. That screening led to the director Eric Latek being named as one of the "25 New Faces of Independent Film" by Filmmaker Magazine: <http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/summer2008/25faces_5.php>. His film had previously shown at Full Frame and very few other venues.

Edited Fri 1 May 2009 by Thom Powers

Raphaela Neihausen
Fri 1 May 2009Link

Doug – no, her name isn't Eve (now that would be a strange coincidence!). It was Susanne.

Jesse – we look forward to seeing you when your production schedule allows for it. Please introduce yourself when next at STF since I don't believe we've met before.


Erica Ginsberg
Fri 1 May 2009Link

In reply to Thom Powers's post on Thu 30 Apr 2009 :

Thom, I agree with you that it would make the most sense for local community film groups to organize their own screening series rather than depend on STF as a franchise since each community knows their audience best (not to mention the fact that you overseeing a franchise is just one more thing to add to your busy life).

But I really like your idea of a traveling circuit for films which may play well in multiple cities. One question related to this: is STF a non-profit? Since the ideal of such an idea would be to provide a way for said-filmmakers to attend each screening and perhaps get an honorarium, it seems like it could be a fundable program if different non-profit film organizations in different cities could partner and apply together for funding for such a venture (in addition to filmmaker fees, other costs would be the cost of renting screening space and promotion). It could become something a bit like Southern Circuit where maybe there is a pool of films selected from which each film club in each city could choose to suit local tastes. And it doesn't necessarily mean needing to reinvent the wheel – it could draw on existing film organizations in different cities such as Marj's suggestion of IDA in L.A.


Andrés Livov
Fri 1 May 2009Link

The Toronto Int. Festival organizes something in the realm of what you're proposing, Erica. They named it The Film Circuit: http://filmcircuit.ca/default.aspx


Ryan Ferguson
Fri 1 May 2009Link

fair enough... it makes sense to me why franchising could be toilsome and unpredictable.

the only problem for me is that while I feel like I could take on overseeing a division of something that is well established, I don't feel like I have the time and energy to spearhead something brand new... at least for now. I'm shoulder deep in doc making. But, I'm sure there are others here in town that would do it. I might at least spread the idea.

And I'm definitely intrigued as well by the circuit idea. That is exactly how I imagined a STF "franchise". If that idea gets legs, I would love to make sure that we don't get flown over.


Thom Powers
Fri 1 May 2009Link

Erica, STF is not non-profit – more like barely profit. Certainly, there are appeals to partnering with a non-profit in order to fund-raise. That's the model of New York's Film Forum.

The downside is that kind of effort takes even more pre-planning and coordination. One key to the success of STF has been setting modest goals and growing slowly.

The first season was 8 films in fall 05. Then we did another 8 in spring 06. When the demand was evident, we expanded from 16 weeks a year to 30 (divided into 10 week seasons in fall, winter and spring). During the summer, we take off for my job at the Toronto Film Festival. New Yorkers are well-served in that season by http://rooftopfilms.com/

We didn't get a web site until the seventh season when Raphaela joined as executive director and applied her background as a management consultant. In fact, before that STF wasn't a "we" as much as "me." I started off sending email blasts with a list of 1000 or so contacts that I'd accumulated over the years and "borrowed" from other film lists. It wasn't until my fourth or fifth season that I graduated to Constant Contact.

So start small. Program a series of four films. I think it's useful to keep a regular schedule – whether it's every Tuesday; or the first Tuesday of every month. Be prepared to work with a theater to fill a slot when they'd otherwise be slow. In Chicago, there are so many live theaters (including Timeline where my brother is the artistic director), maybe you could outfit one with a projector on a night when its closed.


Erica Ginsberg
Fri 1 May 2009Link

Very good advice. I am shuddering just to think of you mailing 1000 e-mails directly from your e-mail program. And I still don't know how you program so many films when it sounds like it's basically just the two of you.


Thom Powers
Fri 1 May 2009Link

In reply to Jesse Zook Mann's post on Fri 1 May 2009 :

Jesse, please do say hello. One motivation to start this forum was to enhance the face to face aspect of STF. We've just learned that our 8 pm show of ART & COPY is sold out on May 5. However, there are still tickets available for the 6 pm show:
http://www.movietickets.com/house_detail.asp?house_id=9598&rdate=5%2F5%2F2009

For sold out shows, we often have tickets available at the last minute for people willing to take a chance on the rush line.

Has anyone else seen ART & COPY at previous festival stops; or plan to see it at Hot Docs? Or have you seen Doug Pray's other films such as HYPE, SCRATCH, BIG RIG or (my favorite) SURFWISE?

Here's what I wrote about SURFWISE when it premiered at Toronto:
http://stfdocs.com/films/surfwise/

Edited Fri 1 May 2009 by Thom Powers

Stephen Hyde
Sat 2 May 2009Link

Cool idea to discuss STF here on the D-Word. I love the fact that New York City has a weekly documentary night at the IFC center.

Thank you Thom and Raphaela!

I hope we see more weekly documentary nights in other cities. Seems like it would stick in Chicago, Ryan.


Danielle Beverly
Sat 2 May 2009Link

There are great theatres in Chicago. Facets, Music Box (maybe too large a venue at this point for STF) and Gene Siskel (an amazing theatre but frankly too downtown for me as a destination).

Ryan if you are serious, call me. I recently reconnected with the programmer from Facets who I sat on a jury with a few years ago. We had a talk about audiences for docs, and getting them out to the theatre. We can brainstorm if you want.


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