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Stuart Watson
Mon 26 Nov 2001Link
Hello.

I'm Stuart Watson, an investigative reporter working in local TV news.
I learned of the D-Word Community from a group of filmmakers who were
producing a documentary about our television newsroom for PBS.

I'd like to learn how to edit with Final Cut Pro.

Any ideas on the best way to get started are appreciated.

Stuart

Doug Block
Tue 27 Nov 2001Link
Welcome, Stuart. Was that Local News, perchance? David Van Taylor
and Brad Lichtenstein from Lumiere are D-Word members.

We have a thriving FCP topic in our D-Word Community (which you
certainly qualify for) where any and all your questions will get
answered. Email me if you want to join: doug@d-word.com.

Donna Andrews
Thu 6 Dec 2001Link
Hi,

I am an independent writer/producer from Iowa. Past work has included
corporate, training, marketing, educational and some local public
television work. I am now focusing my career on environmental
education and documentary. Iowa is not a great place to be for this
kind of work. I am lacking a "community" of independent/documentary
producers. Therefore, I look forward to checking in regularly with
the d-word community, to network and learn from you all.

Doug Block
Thu 6 Dec 2001Link
Welcome, Donna. Nice to have you come all this way to join us ;-)

Robert Goodman
Fri 7 Dec 2001Link
I guess frequent trips to Chicago are in order?

John Quinn
Tue 18 Dec 2001Link
I think I will have to be a lurker for quite a while. I'm an aged dude who has decided to follow his youngest son who has almost completed a New Zealand BA in film and video. Ben's major video was taking an ordinary actor and using real stunt men to make him into a stuntman! (nearly killed the poor bugger). New Zealand is awash with stuntmen and women as we've had Zena and Hercules productions here for years (even I"ve been an extra in both) and more recently Lord of the Ring. I'd like to hear your opinion of Peter Jackson's epic if you wish to post as us Kiwis are enormously proud of his efforts and I would like to keep him buoyed up as he moves to the last two parts of the triolgy.

OK, in a few weeks time I will start my BA in Film, Television and Media Studies at the University of Auckland which should take three years to complete. For your interest, the films we analyse in the first year are "Gladiator" (well it was only the third time a New Zealander had won an Acadamy Award), "Grease", "The Castle" (a quirky Australian film about a dysfunctional family resisting losing their home to an airport extension), "Inside John Malcovich" (a neat film I thought as I'm an SF buff), "Secrets and Lies", "the Price of Milk" (a NZ film which has proved strangely popular, especially in the USA).

I have worked for a zillion years in journalism and public relations (some of the latter, dare I say, multinational). I have made corporate films and videos. One I scripted on introducing the concept of employee shareholding to thousands of employees was put forward by the production company to an Australian version of Bafta and missed out by one point on the top prize. I used a gifted Maori actor as presentor who did not possess a suit until I bought one for him.

Since then I have done the high-tech stuff using laptop-controlled presentations (try coping with it when the idiot presenting it departs from the script).

Ah well...."by the scars on their backs you shall know them." Hopefully I can contribute a little bit to my classes as well as learning heaps in the next three years. What to do with it? Not really sure but maybe producer-screenwriter.

PS. If you enjoy Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Rings" see if you can rent an earlier film "Heavenly Creatures" that he made. This was about two Christchurch 16-year-olds who conspired to kill the mother of one. It was cause celebre at the time with juvenile lesbian overtones, secret diaries, adultery involving senior English academics let alone Mum's grisly end on the end of a frequently wielded brick in a local park in broad-daylight.

In those days I was 18-years-old and a trainee journalist for the morning paper, "The Press". I had to run hand-written copy to Post Office telegraphists to send to several London papers such was their interest in the salacious aspects of the case.

In between hopping on my bike for the sprint to the Post Office (we took life seriously in those days) I would stand at attention alongside the pressbox. As the youngest person the court, Parker, the dark-haired defendent, decided to relieve her boredom by smiling and winking at me. Hulme, the other, ignored me. I was terrified that the slightest response on my part would end up with contempt of court proceedings and losing my job!

Anyway my stocism worked, after both girls serving around 6 years, Parker joined a nunnery; and Hulme, back in England, became a successful mystery writer under another name and was only exposed a few years ago as being involved in a murder herself. I felt sorry for her. I guess, at 66, I am probably the only person left alive who was at her trial.

Anyway Kai I think might know me from other posts in history and political subjects. I look forward to learning from this group. Are there good sources to access film criticism?

Cheers John

Doug Block
Tue 18 Dec 2001Link
Welcome to The D-Word Forum, John, and thanks for the lengthy and
interesting post. For some reason it didn't wrap around, so to help
everyone read it, I'm re-postinig it with word wrap (which you might
want to check off in your Settings). I admire your courage in going
after the BA and wish you well. Please check back in with us from
time to time and let us know how it's going.

[JOHN WROTE:] I think I will have to be a lurker for quite a while.
I'm an aged dude who has decided to follow his youngest son who has
almost completed a New Zealand BA in film and video. Ben's major video
was taking an ordinary actor and using real stunt men to make him into
a stuntman! (nearly killed the poor bugger). New Zealand is awash with
stuntmen and women as we've had Zena and Hercules productions here for
years (even I"ve been an extra in both) and more recently Lord of the
Ring. I'd like to hear your opinion of Peter Jackson's epic if you
wish to post as us Kiwis are enormously proud of his efforts and I
would like to keep him buoyed up as he moves to the last two parts of
the triolgy.

OK, in a few weeks time I will start my BA in Film, Television and
Media Studies at the University of Auckland which should take three
years to complete. For your interest, the films we analyse in the
first year are "Gladiator" (well it was only the third time a New
Zealander had won an Acadamy Award), "Grease", "The Castle" (a quirky
Australian film about a dysfunctional family resisting losing their
home to an airport extension), "Inside John Malcovich" (a neat film I
thought as I'm an SF buff), "Secrets and Lies", "the Price of Milk" (a
NZ film which has proved strangely popular, especially in the USA). I
have worked for a zillion years in journalism and public relations
(some of the latter, dare I say, multinational). I have made corporate
films and videos. One I scripted on introducing the concept of
employee shareholding to thousands of employees was put forward by the
production company to an Australian version of Bafta and missed out by
one point on the top prize. I used a gifted Maori actor as presentor
who did not possess a suit until I bought one for him.

Since then I have done the high-tech stuff using laptop-controlled
presentations (try coping with it when the idiot presenting it departs
from the script).

Ah well...."by the scars on their backs you shall know them."
Hopefully I can contribute a little bit to my classes as well as
learning heaps in the next three years. What to do with it? Not really
sure but maybe producer-screenwriter.

PS. If you enjoy Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Rings" see if you can
rent an earlier film "Heavenly Creatures" that he made. This was about
two Christchurch 16-year-olds who conspired to kill the mother of one.
It was cause celebre at the time with juvenile lesbian overtones,
secret diaries, adultery involving senior English academics let alone
Mum's grisly end on the end of a frequently wielded brick in a local
park in broad-daylight. In those days I was 18-years-old and a trainee
journalist for the morning paper, "The Press". I had to run
hand-written copy to Post Office telegraphists to send to several
London papers such was their interest in the salacious aspects of the
case. In between hopping on my bike for the sprint to the Post Office
(we took life seriously in those days) I would stand at attention
alongside the pressbox. As the youngest person the court, Parker, the
dark-haired defendent, decided to relieve her boredom by smiling and
winking at me. Hulme, the other, ignored me. I was terrified that the
slightest response on my part would end up with contempt of court
proceedings and losing my job!

Anyway my stocism worked, after both girls serving around 6 years,
Parker joined a nunnery; and Hulme, back in England, became a
successful mystery writer under another name and was only exposed a
few years ago as being involved in a murder herself. I felt sorry for
her. I guess, at 66, I am probably the only person left alive who was
at her trial.

Anyway Kai I think might know me from other posts in history and
political subjects. I look forward to learning from this group. Are
there good sources to access film criticism?

Cheers John

Robert Goodman
Tue 18 Dec 2001Link
great stories - john

Dawn Mikkelson
Thu 20 Dec 2001Link
Hello,

My name is Dawn and I'm an independent documentary producer/director
from Minnesota. Looking to find out more about this community as
Minnesota tends to have none for documentarians (that I'm aware of,
unless they're just hiding). Just completed a film called "Treading
Water" on the GLBT communities of rural northeastern Minnesota and am
in post-production on "THIS Obedience" a film on the ordination of Rev.
Anita C. Hill, an openly lesbian minister in the Lutheran church. Our
website is www.aquariesmedia.com if you want to see other pieces about
me or my partner in filmmaking, Jamie. Would love to learn about
fundraising and distribution, as we have the filmmaking part down.
Just don't know exactly how to get these things funded and shown. I
guess that's it for now. I look forward to figuring out this online
community thang, as my web knowledge is not terribly interactive.

Dawn

Doug Block
Thu 20 Dec 2001Link
Welcome, Dawn. Your experience certainly qualifies you for The D-Word Community, so I hope you'll register.


Sahand Sahebdivani
Fri 28 Dec 2001Link
Hi All,

Sahand here, young writer/translator weaseling his way into
film/documentary. I've been lurking around since Ben introduced me to
the forum at the Amsterdam Doc Fest, not allowing myself to post
until I finished shooting my first short (dance) film last night. If
it's any good I'll get it streaming on a server somewhere (and post a
link ofcourse), if not, I'll hide in a cave somewhere. Expect a
plethora of questions from yours truly as soon as I feel somewhat
confident in my role as a starting mockumentarist.

S.

Ben Kempas
Fri 28 Dec 2001Link
Welcome to The D-Word, Sahand! Tell us a bit more about where you are coming from, both geographically and in your work.

You can also put some info into your bio in your settings.


Sahand Sahebdivani
Fri 28 Dec 2001Link
Many thanks Ben,

Let it be known I do not shy away from shameless self-promotion;
I am a young Dutch-Iranian alloy, combined for greater strenght,
active in the fields of literature and film. My only published work
(so far) is a collection of Bukowski translations in Farsi. We have
just finished shooting my directing debut; a 1.45 minutes dance-
short. It will undoubtedly have many shortcomings, but the experience
will help me to realise some of my other film plans.

A great deal of my creative juices is reserved for 'Lion-Heart' a
docu-drama Iranian style playing in Baluchistan, an Iranian province
bordering with Pakistan. At the Rotterdam Film Festival next month
you will find me making a fool of myself trying to impress rich
producers.

Being a child of neither one world or the other, I get excited when I
see the cultural continents move towards and away from each other,
creating gaps and friction. I see beautiful things being created on
the borders, and it is this energy I wish to tap into, this line I
wish to walk.

Recently my creative soul has been demanding of me to focus my
attention towards the people of Afghanistan. I would like to engage
in dialogue with some of the creative minds of Afghanistan, in- and
outside the country.

I am a small boy with big dreams.

S.

Bill Weaver
Sun 30 Dec 2001Link
Hi Folks.
I'm a transplanted American living in British Columbia. For the
past ten years, I've been president of Across Borders Media,
which produces documentaries mainly for Candian networks.
I'm looking to "cross the borders" more these days, pitching my
projects to American broadcasters as well.

Also, for the past four years, I've hosted a conference called
Media that Matters, which brings together people from all facets
of socially - consicous media in a beautiful wilderness setting to
cross-polloinate and have deeper conversations what we convey
to the world.

NIce to be here. Glad this space exists.

http://www.mediathatmatters.org
http://www.acrossborders.com

Ben Kempas
Sun 30 Dec 2001Link
Welcome to the D-Word, Bill. I am delighted that you want join our
forums. You have now access to

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where you should re-introduce yourself to the other members in
another "Introduce yourself" topic: {LINK NOT IMPORTED}

Doug Block
Mon 31 Dec 2001Link
Likewise, Sahand, I hope you'll register for the private D-Word
Community. Just email me (doug@d-word.com) and I'll get instructions
right out to you.

Tina Difeliciantonio
Tue 19 Feb 2002Link
Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the right place for this posting so please
excuse me if I'm in the wrong place.

I am hoping someone out there could help me find an old
version for Mac of Photoshop 4.0. Does anyone know where I
could acquire this version of the program? We have an older
AVID that can only take this version.

Many thanks!

Thanks!

Tina D

Bill Kavanagh
Wed 20 Feb 2002Link
Hi. I'm Bill Kavanagh and I'm a documentary-maker living in
Manhattan. Have field produced a documentary about the civil
war in El Salvador, "Enemies of War," working with Esther
Cassidy. I'm currently posting a documentary about three
families whose lives are changed by a struggle in one city for fair
housing--working title "Brick by Brick." There is a website for this
work-in-progress, at www.brick-by-brick.com.

I'm curious about the d-word community. Do tell!

Doug Block
Wed 20 Feb 2002Link
Bill, for more info see: www.d-word.com/community.html

Tina Difeliciantonio
Wed 20 Feb 2002Link
Hi Bill,

I'm actually a friend of Esther's but I haven't seen her film yet.

Don't know much about D-Word yet since this is my first posting.

Best of luck,

TinaD

Rob Green
Thu 21 Feb 2002Link
Hi everybody.
I'm Rob, and on my business card it says I'm a documentary
producer. This is because, until recently, I produced cable docs
and magazine stories for Towers Productions in Chicago. I have
recently gone freelance and moved to New York in the middle of
a recession. That's why my business card doesn't say "career
counselor."
I've done programs for The Food Network, A&E, The History
Channel, MSNBC, and The Weather Channel (yes, The Weather
Channel does programs). I even scored a doc for a friend (and
d-word member).
I've also compiled a rather long list of "next projects," which, if I
can ever free myself from the cycle of wage slavery, I'll start on.

I'm really happy to find this forum. Maybe one of you can
explainto me the difference between "self-employed" and
"unemployed."

James Hannon
Thu 21 Feb 2002Link
Hi Rob,

Welcome to the group!

By the way, found out the hard way that the diffence between
self-employed & unemployed is how much money you have in the bank to
support yourself... But if you ever go for unemployement, NEVER tell
them you're self-employed!!!

Take care
-=James

Doug Block
Fri 22 Feb 2002Link
Welcome, Rob. I feel like a broken record, but you certainly qualify
for the private D-Word forum: www.d-word.com/community.html

Ben Kempas
Fri 22 Feb 2002Link
More than 10,000 postings are waiting for you inside the Community!
Plus, the archives!

John D. Williams
Sun 24 Feb 2002Link
Welcome, Rob.

Michel Rolland
Fri 1 Mar 2002Link
Hello colleagues,

my name is Michel Rolland, and I'm from Madrid (Spain). Although I
had read about the D-Word community in DOX - EDN's magazine -, it
was not only until january that I was personally invited to join it
by Doug, during the House of Docs discussions, in Sundance. It's
great to see the interest and committment that I can read in every
member's comments, so I'll try to provide helpful and interesting
information. LA LINTERNA, my one member company, is still pretty much
breaking through. We are just starting to work for some spanish
channels providing contents that we shoot in Ny-area by some
associated people I have down there. We have been trying to enter the
international scene for more than two years, since the money for
documentaries in Spain is either non existent or in the hands of a
few multimedia-multicapital companies who provide weigth more than
quality... But this year we are going to produce a documentary that -
hopefully - will give us access to that scene...

I must apologise for my spelling mistakes, but somehow Internet always
rushes my typewriting... It's good to join the D-Word community, and
I'll be posting very soon information about festivals in Spain and
initiatives that a group of documentaries professionals organize under
the name of DOCUS.

Until then... my favourite greeting: GOOD CONTRACTS!

michel

Ben Kempas
Fri 1 Mar 2002Link
Welcome Michel!

You have just posted in our public forum, OUTSIDE The D-Word
Community. Copy and paste your intro to {LINK NOT IMPORTED}

So ... see you inside. Until then, Good Contracts!

Dominic Proccacino
Sat 2 Mar 2002Link
My two points below relate to the Sept 11, 2001 World Trade Center disaster.

(1) Introduction: I was kicked out of the Reed College Alumni Web Conference following the World Trade Center incident of 9/11/2001. Some objected to my posting "Reed:89.6716", maybe someone thought (secretly) that I would fan the flames of animosity against New York City. I tried to rephrase that posting in "Terrorism:8.941", the Cafe Utne Terrorism conference. One of the hosts of the Reed Conference told me that he would "maybe" let me back in after New Years, 2002, but (so far) he hasn't let me back in. I took advice in Reed's "Conference Housekeeping" topic to visit this D-Word Conference instead. Very few Reed Alumni will read me here, sad to say.

(2) Documentary: I was in Connecticut on 9/11/2001. Shortly after the WTC disaster, I saw a documentary film on Connecticut Public Television. Earlier that year I had heard the broadcast of Ken Burn's Jazz documentary on Miami, Florida's WDNA-FM radio, but CPTV showed a portion of a documentary about New York City by a different Burns. I saw portions of the show dealing with the construction of the Chrysler building and the Empire State Building. Can anyone tell me:

  1. What is the full name of the Burns who made the documentary about New York City?
  2. How many episodes did I miss?


Ben Kempas
Sun 3 Mar 2002Link
So who are you, Dominic?

Robert Goodman
Sun 3 Mar 2002Link
ric burns. Who knows how many episodes you missed.

Dom Proccacino
Mon 4 Mar 2002Link
To Ben Kempas: click upon the "(dcp)" next to my name in LINK NOT IMPORTED
(above) and follow the links to my rough-draft autobiography. It
would make a nice documentary film (even though I have accomplished
nothing in my life) because of all the interesting things that were
going on in the background.

To Robert Goodman: Thank you for the information.

To All: when I tried to change my e-mail from spam@fredharriman.com
to proccacino@fredharriman.com, I got locked out of cafe utne, and I
had to register again using a slightly different user id. It rhymes
with C3PO, but eho was C3PO?

Jennifer Jacobs
Mon 11 Mar 2002Link
I am very happy to have found this website...I am a lover of
documentaries and would love to work on them full time, however, not
sure how to break into the BIZ...still happy to be here....

Doug Block
Mon 11 Mar 2002Link
Nice to have you here, Jennifer. Welcome.

How to break into the biz. Phew. There's film school. There's
interning. There's marrying a wonderfully rich and supportive fella.
And then there's going out, buying a digital camcorder and JUST DOING
IT.

Just don't expect to make a living at it :-)

Jennifer Jacobs
Mon 11 Mar 2002Link
Okay don't expect to make a living at it just yet...well I have a
Master's in English and teach full time at a junior high...my mind is
ripe with things I could document, am dying to, but who where do I
connect with to get my things shown or funded? All that I am very no-
knowledge on....

John D. Williams
Mon 11 Mar 2002Link
Welcome to Dominic and Jennifer!


Doug Block
Mon 11 Mar 2002Link
Jennifer, read up on grants for docmakers. Going the grant route is
probably best for first-timers if you have a social issue your
exploring. Otherwise, you probably have to get it off the ground out
of your own pocket.

Joel Bach
Fri 22 Mar 2002Link
Hello everybody,
My dear friend Sarah George, who some of you know, finally kicked me in
the butt hard enough to get me involved in The D-Word, and I'm glad she
did. This looks like quite an interesting place to convene, share
ideas, collaborate, commiserate.
I'm a TV doc producer living in New York. Recently, my company, which
was contracted by MSNBC to produce bios and specials, let go 95% of its
employees, including myself. So I join the ranks of the unemployed.
I look forward to seeing what y'all are up to.
Thanks,
Joel Bach

Doug Block
Fri 22 Mar 2002Link
Hey Joel, I think you meant to post this in the private D-Word
Community. To do that, go to www.d-word.com and click on "members
log-in".

Doug Block
Fri 22 Mar 2002Link
Doesn't mean it isn't nice to have you here, too :-)

Robert Goodman
Fri 22 Mar 2002Link
yes - this space needs some activity too. Perhaps a billboard on the
Verazano?

Doug Block
Fri 22 Mar 2002Link
Or we could just chat a while, RG...

Robert Goodman
Mon 25 Mar 2002Link
sure thing. A private conversation in the public forum.

So - SPC is even slower to make decisions than I'd heard. Two weeks
and counting to schedule a screening.

I'm going to be in NY on 5/18 for WIF chapter - doing a moderator
thing.

Michelle Byrd
Mon 8 Apr 2002Link
Just signing on. Michelle Byrd, Exec Director, IFP/New York. Looking
forward to joining the group.

Doug Block
Tue 9 Apr 2002Link
Glad you were able to navigate your way in here, Michelle. We're
simplifying the registration process and should have it up and running
by Thursday when the Virtual Doc Conference press release goes out.
Folks will just need to go to: www.d-word.com/register.

Jayasri Majumdar Hart
Thu 11 Apr 2002Link
Hi, fellow documentarians!

This is one of the best things the International Documentary
Association got me into. I signed up for the International Marketing
of Docs cyber-conference at the end of the month, but am going to be
staying on, I think. Some will recognize my first name as being from
India; the second was acquired through marriage--which brought me to
Los Angeles. For those who want to know more, let me include my
website URL. http://home.earthlink.net/~jayasrihart.

Expect to run into some old friends and make some new ones!

Doug Block
Thu 11 Apr 2002Link
Hi Jayasri, thanks for posting. I'd welcome you, and any other
documentary professionals to join our private D-Word Community. For
more info, go to: www.d-word.com/community.

David Brown
Thu 11 Apr 2002Link
Hi folks, I just joined. I'm a docmaker from San Francisco who's
been producing and directing social and environmental issue docs since
1971. I also teach documentary filmmaking at City College of San
Francisco. My most recent doc, SURFING FOR LIFE, profiles older
surfers in their 70s, 80s and 90s. You can check our web site at
www.surfingforlife.com. I look forward to being in touch and learning
from y'all (Texas friends). Kindly, David L.

Doug Block
Fri 12 Apr 2002Link
Welcome, David. Feel free to fill out a Personal Profile so we can
find out more about you and your work (by clicking on your username).
To do so, click on the Settings button at the top right of the page.

Hans Pfleiderer
Fri 12 Apr 2002Link
I need support ,sales ideas and possible collaboration to
complete a documentary which is on its way already.
Let me introduce you to my project.:

MOONWATCHER - The Documentary
MOONWATCHER is a 90-minute documentary made for
theatrical release and adapted for the television format.
Space. Time. Nature. Technology. Art. Destiny…
After four painstaking years of production, Stanley Kubrick’s
"2001, A Space Odyssey" finally hit the screen in April 1968. This
extraordinary spell-binding tale of human evolution and destiny
evokes the great mystery of mankind’s existential search, and
his ultimate quest for self-realization.
2001’s ‘Dawn-of-Man sequence’, featured the alpha-ape
character of "Moonwatcher", the creation of performer/artist, Dan
Richter, "Moonwatcher" and his tribe are doomed to extinction.
Then, he picks up a bone, uses it as a tool and ultimately crafts it
into a weapon of destruction.
The pivotal sequence remains one of the most lurid and
provoking visual metaphors in cinematic history.
Artist Dan Richter collaborated with some of the most influential
and creative minds of the day. Andy Warhol, Arthur C. Clarke,
John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Allen Ginsberg and Kubrick himself
were among his peer group. These writers, artists and
performers used their art as a vehicle to strike at the very core of
the status quo.
In MOONWATCHER Dan Richter plays host to a vibrant
examination of the post-world war years of the 1960’s, the age of
radical query, and the role of artists in stretching accepted
paradigms that challenged and transformed ideas, we travel
through the decades of discovery, pop culture, space travel,
globalization of corporate monoliths, capitalism, consumerism
and the vanished enemies behind the iron curtain.
Re-think the human condition as you are invited into the
nature-drenched environment of science fiction author Arthur C.
Clarke and the urban world of avant garde artist and musician,
Yoko Ono.
MOONWATCHER - The Documentary, explores the artistic legacy
of Kubrick’s profound commentary, and of those artists whose
creative output defined their generation and future perspectives.
As the catalysts for true examination their expressions reveal
profound insights as to our ultimate purpose on earth.
Hans Pfleiderer
DIRECTOR / PRODUCER

Tracy Heather Strain
Fri 12 Apr 2002Link
Hi. I have finally visited and remain excited about participating.
I'm currently a Boston-based filmmaker, and the producer of the
recently-completed ADRIFT, a lyrical film about an Irish-American
cameraman and his late father's expectations for success. I'm
finally back to work on SWEET DREAMS: THE DONUT MOVIE. Later, Tracy

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